I super love this podcast interview (and YouTube video) that Hank Smith and John Bytheway did with Dr. Barbara Gardner. I love that she explains that priesthood power is not just held by men. Yes, worthy men are ordained to hold keys of the priesthood, which open doors, but priesthood power, the power of God the Father, and God Jesus Christ, is shared by righteous men and women. It is the godly power involved in nurturing humans so that they can return to live with Heavenly Father. She refers to Elder Dallin H. Oaks’ remark that we should not call men “the priesthood.” in part 2, she says we demean the priesthood when we refer to the power as a person. I also love that she says that girls and women should have overnight camps to celebrate the restoration of the priesthood.
Shownotes are here. These statements from Dr. Gardner are so illuminating!
Courtesy of YouTube, here are the different elements of the interview, with their timestamps, for Part 1. Below that is part 2, with the same. In part 2’s timestamps, I added some of my own parenthetical notes.
00:00 Welcome to follow HIM with Hank Smith and John Bytheway
01:11 Background of Dr. Barbara Morgan Gardner
03:39 Background of Doctrine and Covenants, Section 84 (actually three revelations put together)
06:48 Additional D&C sections that help understand Section 84
09:17 There aren’t two priesthoods but one
11:39 Where Saints confuse patriarchal and family structures in regards to priesthood authority
19:27 Mention of Ezra Taft Benson’s talk, “What I Hope You Teach Your Children and Grandchildren About the Temple”
23:34 What men and women can learn about priesthood privileges from Section 84: 19-22 27:07 The establishment of the Relief Society prepares the Saints for the temple ordinances, which are essential for the Restoration of the Priesthood
31:47 Should the sections about the Priesthood be taught in Relief Society and the Young Women auxiliaries?
37:14 What does presiding and nurturing mean?
42:24 The Lord is accelerating revealing eternal truth, which includes focus on learning in the home (for individuals and families)
45:49 Discussion regarding helping families lead and draw closer to Jesus Christ in the home 50:29 Dr. Gardner shares personal story of understanding why so many men died at Martin’s Cove
54:44 Why women can also have a Priesthood Commemoration camping trip with sons and daughters
57:41 Who should preside at Church events and in the home
1:01:02 Why the Lord teaches us line upon line 1:04:02 End of Part I
00:07 Adam and Eve and the Fall
01:57 What does God want? God wants us to be like Him
03:55 Males are not the Priesthood (and why does it matter that we don’t call men “the priesthood”)
7:07 The Oath and Covenant is for men and women
09:33 Memorizing the Oath and Covenant helps understand the temple covenants
13:13 God’s promises are to all, regardless of gender and women have right to revelation and power as men
17:16 Obtain versus ordain
20:16 The possibility that breaking covenants is the cessation of repentance
23:15 Light comes from obedience
24:54 Oliver Cowdery records this remarkable revelation
30:26 Dr. Gardner shares personal story about the spirit of the Doctrine and Covenants
33:05 President Benson and President Nelson focus on The Book of Mormon because it exposes the tactics of the Adversary
36:39 At baptism we are willing to take His name upon us. We take His name upon us in the temple
37:44 Women and healing blessings in the past and present
42:28 God will give everyone a chance to hear the Gospel and when should missionaries or members move on
45:00 Dr. Gardner shares personal story about teaching woman who had been taught by multiple sets of missionaries
48:00 Dr. Gardner’s mentor lifted her daily with writing expertise and lifting “the hands that hang down”
52:03 Dr. Gardner shares her feelings about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Savior, and priesthood power